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Friday, March 8, 2013

Experiencer Changes Mind - Aliens Are Demons

As regular readers know, I rarely to never talk about the perception of some folks that UFO's are demonic entities (this includes Orbs too). But, today I will present someone who thinks exactly that based on her EXPERIENCE.......... Hmm. Let's see why she says that.......

Oh my, where do I begin. First, she had the `typical' alien abduction scenario - on the table in the spaceship gig. Seems this lady then began  embracing the UFO movement for 17 years to the point of meeting the big stars of UFOlogy - including the ones that say that aliens are demons (well, I should say finding the book which could indeed be government BS disinfo that says such by Nick Redfern). (BTW, I and Nick got `into it' at my blog about the book when it came out.) Along with `physical' evidence - including combining the missed periods of women in the 40's going thru the change of life - into being aborted by the aliens in their spaceship.

And, YES - hypnotism is involved BIG TIME with this lady. And as is a bit of now - `born again' Catholic professing. Yes, I'd say ALL the ingredients are present... how about you? Oh, did I mention that she is completing her `spiritual autobiography', that her business card says `got aliens'  and that this article appeared in a Tucson newspaper entity - for promotion one would assume.

Still not convinced?............. Neither am I - but here's the story to read for yourself..... Real Identity Of Aliens.

"Years ago, I heard aliens are demons but it never really clicked for me until it made logical, historical sense in this context. I saw historical and biblical references to fallen angels breeding with humans. ... They can present themselves in different forms. In the Middle Ages, they were described as other-dimensional beings."
Harman said these beings now present themselves as extraterrestrials. "The theories in the UFO community are that the aliens are breeding with us to strengthen their race. Or that they need to keep our DNA off the planet in case we blow ourselves up. And that the aliens will come and save us, fix our problems. I think this is a big scam.
"I see a danger in the UFO community, elevating the UFO phenomenon to some kind of savior status. We're in great danger of being waltzed into some kind of alien apocalypse where this group of beings present as extraterrestrials here to fix us.

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Now to some real issues of common sense IMO. 

While there ARE a few NUT CASES in the UFO Community who elevate `aliens' to savior status ---- I know of NO general idea among the public that it is that way. IF anything, the `aliens' are feared by the disinfo created by and of the entire UFO Disclosure of Ludicrous Foes. Seriously, there is NOT one drop of intellectual ideas about UFO's EVER presented to the public. Just mindless stuff like what this lady has experienced.

IMO, the states of awareness which produce, often literally, the UFO phenomena - are a very treacherous terrain for nearly all humans - and to BELIEVE you have the `right perceptions' for the phenomena is unlikely --- but is likely to be influenced by ones OWN BELIEFS. (To me, it looks like she has been struggling with her religious ideas - common for many Catholics - and has found a way to come to peace with her religion.) I also question GREATLY how her hypnosis has figured into all of this.
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Now, to take a slightly less aggressive and sympathetic view. 

IMO, as Clockers know, I am a Phenomenologist at heart - and that to me IMO - EVERYTHING IS A SPACE. And, there are only spaces and the perception of what we interpret those spaces to be. Literally............ But, that said, I DO believe that it is certainly possible that SOME spaces have the overwhelming characteristic of LOVE and also of HATE or EVIL. (As interpreted by humans what hate, evil or love would be.)

And, finding a conclusion to our own Spiritual Autobiography, is not the easiest thing to do - especially if you are returning to your born-again home.
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And, your comments?
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Couple of Nick Redfern Books below:
FINAL EVENTS and the Secret Government Group on Demonic UFOs and the Afterlife 

The Pyramids and the Pentagon: The Government's Top Secret Pursuit of Mystical Relics, Ancient Astronauts, and Lost Civilizations
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6 comments:

  1. Good Day Rick,
    Once again you got my attention and spurred the old brain into action. :)
    I've notice many YouTube comments claiming aliens are demons and all incarnations there of. We all so have many comments to the contrary claiming aliens are benevolent and angel like. It's an area I steer clear of because both groups are so polarised and at different ends of the spectrum (as some people are with religion) they become blind to reality.
    The concept of ancient aliens is certainly an interesting one, we've all seen Giorgio Tsoukalos (yes, the bad hair guy) series about the subject. A bit out there for the main stream but somewhat more balanced than the extremists. Personally I don't discount the whole scenario of ancient visitors and I now counter critics by putting it on to them and asking them to prove the theory wrong. That usually makes them think. IMO the field of archaeology and anthropology is dynamic with opinions changing on each new discovery and each new technological advance. Not every fact is cast in stone. :) An open mind in science is paramount but sadly it’s often the first casualty as history shows.
    Yes, If there were ancient entities they could have been labelled both demons or gods and that would depend on how the culture perceived things at the time. Just think of the inquisition and Salem, perceived demons every where. Your lady would have been one of the first to go up in smoke if she wasn’t the one with matches. ;)
    For the opposite side Egypt and South America spring to mind, gods every where.

    Again IMO I don’t see aliens as either malevolent or benevolent, they are what they are. I believe it’s Stanton Friedman that makes this case very well. Such an advance civilisation(s) would more than probably see us as we see insects. We look we learn and basically ignore them (until we get bitten). And because we are still here is a good indication that the alien life doesn’t want to demise us.

    Finally, one comment, your lady wrote “They can present themselves in different forms. In the Middle Ages, they were described as other-dimensional beings.”
    “Other-dimensional beings” in the Middle Ages, don’t think so, the concept of dimensions or the language just didn’t exist.

    Enough rambling from me.
    SOL


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  2. SOL,

    And good day to you too.

    MUCH thanks for commenting on this posting. While I haven't dug into your name-links for some of your beliefs yet, I will say that recently I've been much more inclined to believe that `thinking living beings' may have arisen or been placed on Earth more than once over the last 60 million years or so. Certainly we have the best place to call home within 100 trillion miles if not a quadrillion miles. Literally.

    Indeed, IF we are to think that EARTH hasn't been a home of off planet creatures in the past 1/2 billion years - then one must believe that the universe is not transversed much by bio-logical entities.

    The other stuff - demons and gods- IMO, are not phenomenological entities that are biological and are temporal when seen or experienced by human perceptions.

    You are indeed right on her `other dimensional' statement,.... but folks are so loose with their language about such stuff that I let it slide.

    Always look forward to your comments SOL.

    Rick

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    1. Good morning. what an interesting site. I think I have had a close encounter with non human being when I was a child and I have seen several UFOs over the years,(the last one in 1997, and very close) and if this doesn't sound paranoid, I think "They " are watching me.BUT I do not know what "They" are, or where they hail from, (didn't have Galactic Airlines written on the side. When I was younger I had/believed several theories about Aliens/Gods/Space craft etc. Now I think someone/something is wasting our resources in investigating this phenomena, big time!I have come to the conclusion, that these things are not friendly towards Humans. More of a pest than anything else. These creatures or whatever, don't solve anything, give any help to Humans in any way. They frustrate us, alienate (pardon the pun) us from each other and are too cowardly to come out into the open.From what one reads they are totally disdainful of human feelings or human rights.
      I have decided to stop wasting my energy on trying to solve the enigma, in the hopes they will just fade away as did the Elves, goblins and fairies from the old times.I don't care about them anymore. They are succeeding in exhausting, and frustrating us.Maybe governments know thw answer and are afraid to tell us. Why do all Presidents of the USA, go gray in office? Do they know a dreadful secret? Who knows?
      Best wishes to all.

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  3. Kind of disagree. Rod Sterling talked about other dimensions back in around 1968 at the beginning of his shows. Following UFOs for almost 50 years and " aliens helping our military build good advanced tech and saving us from ourselves" is an old " benign aliens" is old as I am. You miss the money makers like the lady and too many others like you/us is big $ so let's get real. So then that makes " aliens" the " legal owners" of Earth. Why only ET's when too many likely come from under the Sea and earth? I think they are inbreeding and are mostly Communists and NWO with corrupt,inbred blood/DNA.They predate us by about 5,000 years and could easily be humans surviving The Flood and like the Iraqi Batteries" isn't too far fetched. I bet many are Govnt/military scams cos any tech we see today is already at least 25 years ahead. Of course their Commies that have killed many hundreds of millions as all " Democrats" and Adolf are ALL lefties/utopian to start. Let's stop all the " RW" noise close they are serious Meglomaniacs promising " love,peace,intolerance" when they are the biggest frauds. It's also part of a miss/disinfo project exaggerating allot of things. No they are not benign and just look at the Cows/humans being gutted while alive. Most abductees are terrified remembering what happened to them. MUFO is inflitrated by the Rich billionaire as the only govnt approved to handle ALL reported sightings at his " skin...ranch. Just throwing out some thoughts cos everyone/millions are making money that taints the motivations/reports. Could be all be built by governments now from lost human tech rediscovered. Seems convenient that they coincide with CIA/Nazis doing mind control. A constant " threat" to keep folks scared. Sorry, but blaming the "Jews" aside from the Commie/Liberals is just another 18M folks is just another " dream on" to keep us occupied. So why do folks keep trying to genocide them yet give the very advanced Muslims back then a pass every time?

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  4. Iceni - First, welcome and thanks for the kindish words and the articulate wide ranging comments. I also had a very close sighting of a `saucer shaped' craft in 1991 which sent me on a reading path in this subject matter. The ultimate result is this blog you have found. That said, I had already had multiple experiences with anomalous phenomena personally before the UFO sighting. (BTW, my best posts from 2007-2009 are in the EBooks you see on this page - one includes my UFO experience.)

    You do not need to feel alone in your description of the `watching' - others also describe it literally as knowing when the anomalous has the opportunity to occur. (Such as the Orb Calling Phenomena.) I, personally, would describe it slightly differently and IMO that `feeling' has more to do with human intentionalities, expectations and perceptions. There is also the likelihood IMO that a `beckoning' can link into literally a different `kind' of space. That special space is here-now (even more than human awareness is) and also are elsewhere and elsewhen. There is an actualization that lights up here-mow -- which is very rare for those kind of spaces (that I call the `able-to-not-be') - when a UFO perception happens. IMO.

    Now, to specifically speak to your points.

    `I have come to the conclusion, that these things are not friendly towards Humans.'

    My comment would be `what kind of aliens'? The biological phenomenological aliens that ride in crafts? OR, the `temporal, aliens' that do not USE crafts? --- As a newcomer you may not be aware that I get to have my cake and eat it too. I simply believe that the actual number of biological aliens in crafts is EXTREMELY MINIMAL in real numbers and are simply not interested in planet takeover or even human makeover. We more than likely are entertainment for billion year old entities too - that may be lurking in the able to not be.

    Many many folks don't even bother to begin the journey to figure the enigma out - your spirit to do so should be applauded. That said, I understand that ENERGY is required to maintain a balance point of view.

    Oh, in these very pages I've been tracing the continuted apparent evolution of the full UFO perception experience. Indeed, I've identified certain motifs now happening that are obviously IMPOSSIBLE PERCEPTIONS such as neighborhood UFO's -- yet, they are still being reported more and more. These reports DESPITE the mainstream media NEVER giving ANY credence to such reports. It's really NO different than saying you see a Genie in the sky. Each is impossible. Each are REAL perceptions to the human consciousness and spaces associated with humans and phenomenology. BUT, it is localized.

    The theory I stand by as far as why NOT disclosure is that IMO - the off sheet black budget stuff is simply too large over time to reveal. Then again, the world gets a new Pope perhaps because of what ended up being revealed........... And, seriously, I do think that the powers that be KNOW of at least limited real aliens in crafts -- but --- ultimately AREN'T that concerned but probably DO want to invest in some manner to `combat' the basic techonology and physics of what the alien ship exhibit -- most folks would say that is prudent for humans to do without more knowledge. (BTW, we've had on several occasions readers tell us of the way saucer crafts power up and so forth - had the books in my sidebar for a long time.)

    Again, I appreciate your comments and welcome your input.

    Rick

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  5. Hi Steve - I appreciate you taking the time to comment and provide your opinions of things in these areas of mystery.

    While indeed by the 60's multi-dimensional was mentioned - the lady in the Tucson story was talking about he middle ages I believe (without going to read it again). Oh, I buy into very little of the grand conspiracy theory - but - others may be able to put together more than myself. The obvious worthlessness of politicians is sickening as is the bribery of the press. (Which is what I consider every political ad to be)

    Abductions indeed would be part of the limited number I speak of above - there are some aliens and indeed under the sea is the most likely place if they are inhabitants here. I speak often of Robert Bigelow here - just hit the labels.

    Rick

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