Now, this could be some temporary blip, of course. Or, it could be that the post was intended to be Joe's last blast at UFOlogy and the conspiracy folks. And, almost regardless of which, the post was something that I wanted to comment upon - so, I went to Goggle's cache to find the content now unavailable.
These were Joe's points that I wanted to comment upon as he indeed hits a few particular points very well - like his first one:
UFOS -ROSWELL NOT A CONSPIRACY!
For a number of years I have believed that Roswell and the data being withheld on the UFO experiences were a conspiracy. But if you're very objective you have to admit, if UFOs are space craft and Roswell was real, than to keep that from the public was reasonable and not for any sinister motive.I know that many have sold books on this subject
I want to say that I feel Joe is right that it indeed `could be viewed as reasonable and not sinister' - Joe then goes onward to define what a conspiracy is - `think the dictionary' when it comes to what Joe defines.
Suppose you're the head of the Joint Chiefs and you find out there are intelligent visitors from space, probably interplanetary(that is what the assessment was at first - Project Sign) and far from communicating their purpose here they are to all purposes seeming to gathering strategic military defense information. What would you do?Remember you are releasing this information also to the craziest human critters on this planet? Would you still feel conformable with the possible outcomes?
At this point, IMO, Joe is bringing it home in spades - he's right, nothing sinister at all. (While I'm not familiar with Project Sign I assume he is being accurate.).... But, then, I believe I begin to diverge on Joe's thesis.
The United States has millions of guns. Many countries are paranoid right now could you imagine what it would be like. Here we have an intelligence that could land anywhere leave in a flash and out maneuver are fastest jets and missiles. I think we protest too much when it comes to the indictment of our country and of our government.
If Joe is simply suggesting that someone has decided to not confirm the alien thesis and is suggesting that this is a continuation of the previous policy - I agree. What I begin to disagree about is the actual level of public or world concern about an alien `threat' - I do not believe that there is such a concern in all honesty. And, it's that APATHY that allows for the continuation of a policy of denial of confirmation.
After all, -------- there is PLENTY of released info - official USA info - just look into my sidebar. TONS of proof of what? Tons of proof of the range of human perception, mixed in with a sliver of real phenomenological aliens. That more than likely do not pose a threat to our civilization - if it is to be called that.
And, perhaps it's just my Libertarian mindset, and I think Joe is a democrat, that he is so so so very supportive of `the government'. IN NO WAY DO I THINK `we protest too much'........................ I mean, come on Joe, you have got to be kidding me. But, perhaps I'm splitting hairs and Joe is only extending this blanket government cover about UFO's only.
They were protecting your ass believe it or not, You and I would not be standing here if the military hadn't listen to their superiors on these orders. I believe humans would have taken up guns and shot at these objects believing they were communists - don't laugh that is what at first they thought UFOs were - secret weapons from the Soviet Union.
Taken up guns?......... And, people have shot at UFO's both normal people and the government - according to reports. ........... This is simply a non issue IMO. And, I'd hardly be thankful for the military for `following orders' or `making orders' on this decision - as IMO - it was probably a mutual decision anyway. AND, IF aliens were found at the scene of the Roswell crash, the USSR thing is meaningless as far as being a point of contention. And, that's the thing - was simply an `alien craft' found - or were there indeed aliens.
Does anyone
Here we are decades later and we still don't know what they are or why they are here.The government did the best they could and I truly believe they are not sure what is happening and what is here.
Quite true - perhaps. IF indeed in the wonder years of the 50's the stories of actual government contact are to be totally discounted. IF such meetings occurred, the powers that be may indeed KNOW what is going on and what we see is what the `policy' is. The `policy' being that the presence is NOT a threat to civilization in some grand fashion. (That said, it is certainly possible that our electronic presence in the universe and it's expanding time bubble horizon is informing more possible intelligent civilizations of our location for study. Or, the possibility that NON phenomenological aliens/entities are also a real presence at times for humans.)
Now, the funny part is that when I read this article originally, it included words not here in the cache..... words about the `conspiracy folks' being the folks of the `free energy' crowd and something else. What is `funny' about that is that - the `conspiracy' crowd IS the `UFO Disclosure' crew that is making it''s annual circuit proclaiming to know the truth about the `aliens' and that it includes the `free energy' that the government is withholding from us all.
Now, I'm already on record somewhere in this blog stating largely the same thing as most Clockers know. And, that is that the UFO Disclosure circuit of speakers are `believers' in versions of the `conspiracy' theory - simply with a different slant. Everything that is going to be disclosed about the human and `entity' experience - is disclosed ---- what more can be said, the reports are replete with accounts of extraterrestrials being observed or interacted with in some manner. And, the obvious question is only the `concreteness' of the event.
Anyway, Joe then ends his post with these words:
We as a community could take a giant leap in creditability. We could kick this BS to the curb and didn't support, by purse string or links, these attacks on the greatest government in the world and the people in the CIA that protect us.
How can anyone watch the movie ARGO and not love the best in the US government -and I believe the best at that time decided the public was not ready for the UFO reality.
So, it appears that Joe has perhaps been reading UDCC'S dissing of the UFO Disclosure Dog and Pony show - as obviously he too is ready to no longer be silent on those demanding `disclosure' - tied with an agenda (the free energy angle).
But, Joe again, to me, goes a bit too far in his unadulterated support for the governments position IMO................ Greatest government in the world?????? The CIA `protecting' us?............ (perhaps a small point here) (Never saw ARGO, I think thankfully.) And, as I said above, the decision to change the original `flying saucer' story to a story of denial - can legitimately be supported by rational people. And, not be a sign of a conspiracy.
Well you ask what about now? We may be ready for UFOs but aliens - we can't even get along with each other.
So, ultimately Joe declares his support for the notion of an under informed public on this one issue - aliens. No alien disclosure.................. It's not an unreasonable position. AND, his NON support for the dog and pony sheisters. To which I say HERE HERE.
So, to make the conspiracy theory complete - the day after Joe dissed the UFO Disclosure Conspiracy `community' - his blog vanishes. The very next day after he declares it to be `The Conspiracy Money Maker'.
Say What?
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Will UDCC be next? LOL.
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(I've already played out several scenarios for the government to come clean so to speak - and how it could indeed be done IMO - without major disruption to society. That said, it would be a delicate situation in all likelihood in our 24 hour media as they played out all the implications, including world security and `abductions'. But, it is a risk for no reward and is something not likely to be done for any political reason. Let alone coming clean on the black budget............ or is that too conspiracy for you...... LOL.
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Oh, this is the cache of Joe Capp's Post - seriously, don't mess with the UFO conspiracy folks is the takeaway.
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