Hello Clockers, thanks for your return visit today - and welcome to all of you finding UFO Disclosure Countdown Clock today for the first time (UDCC). Today I'd like to present a resource to all - along with my comments and some analysis - of the event that seemingly happened in the very early morning hours of Jan. 29th, 2011 over the center of Jerusalem. And, what seemingly happened, was that what is commonly referred to as a sky `Orb' - dropped out of the sky, hovered and moved near the ground for roughly 20 seconds, flashed, quickly rose into the sky, vanished into a series of red dot flashes with a white pop-out flash finish.
And then the controversy began.
The `Evidence'
(7:21 edit - breaking news, 295 views - New Video)
The morning of the 30th - I found the video in YouTube search and it had about 22,000 views already - and posted it - the video has 1.68 million views today. It was known as Video One:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-bNOy_CKQ&feature=player_embedded -- I used these words to describe it: Here's one from this week that stands out and stands out bold. One problem, the guy responds to the SECOND move of the UFO BEFORE it occurs (could this be a delay in the recording somehow?). Other than that - and the obvious lack of reports on the ground when it was hovering there - this is a winner video:
The video was posted by Eligael Gedalyovich, who has seemingly been the focus of the MSM - I will also review other video posters separately.
Here's background info on the cases most prominent poster EG: Facebook account:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_196061063754905&ap=1#!/home.php?sk=group_196061063754905&ap=1 His YouTube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/eligael#p/u/5/nUYQ8WlLJB8 his self-description at YT - On 28.01.2011 I was a witness to an UFO sighting over the Dome of the rock in Jerusalem. Since that day my life changed until I've got a suden urge to investigate the meaning of this message.... he has also returned to the spot and provided this second video of the location - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXCEj-fOyEc -- Oh, one more insight by Eligael, in this link he discusses his feelings on all this - http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Eligael-Gedalyovich-Witness-Online-Testimony-Jerusalem-UFO
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You'll note that in my comment I remarked about the need for confirmation from the ground level. Stay tuned.
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The VERY next day - in my YouTube search - I found JUST THAT - the close-up video that became known as the `tourist video' due to the audio with the video - UDCC responded this way: IF this isn't some movie promo OR sophisticated hoax - we HAVE moved to a new level. IMO.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2FFEufsuY&feature=player_embedded and on Feb. 1st on UDCC I provided a link to a `similar' Orb Dropping in Utah on the same evening of Jan. 28th - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZtDM8vt3rg&feature=player_embedded - later to be claimed to be a hoax by a person who stepped forward in Utah;
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the video also triggered huge screams of FAKE from a few longtime naysayers, and some NOT so longtime (where is the flash?). ----- I will cover the `MSM Analysis' of `Fake' a bit later in this presentation. ------ Anyway, back to Video Two (others call this video three), which had only 1,500 views when I posted it - now it has 2.2 million views: It was uploaded by a guy with a YouTube name of 50nFit - his self description: Proof Jerusalem UFO video is real. A new video of the UFO over Jerusalem surfaced tonight from a tourist that was filming while on a late night tour of Jerusalem on January 28th 2011. The video is not the clearest because it was dark out, but it catches the same glowing orb that was caught on tape from across town.http://www.youtube.com/user/50nFit and HE found (links) the clip here (however, the clip at the Vietnam site is HIS video) - http://www.zing.vn/news/the-gioi/vat-the-ky-la-lo-lung-tren-bau-troi-jerusalem/a105928.html (A site from Vietnam I think.) I then ran a `translation' at the Vietnam site and it simply says: The clip shows a globe glowing slowly lowered slowly down until it stops just above the roof of the temple on Temple Mount mosques (Temple Mount) in Jerusalem. Then no flying objects (UFO) defines aircraft hovering over the temple and climbed in mid-air.
Globe suspended suddenly stops soaring in the sky.
The event took place on 1 h on 29/1. However, the video has sparked a debate on about whether it is tháºy or staged.
On Feb. 1st, I also noted the concurrence of the Jerusalem UFO with the political events in Egypt - just like the NYC Orbs occurring during the Chilean miner rescue. I even used words like this on 2-1-11:
In the quest of the human mind to look for patterns and meanings - could the desire by many for such higher contact play out in a manner of believability? One with a structure that sets up a belief in the actualization's? Making the actualization's even more believable?
Now - Video Three - is supposedly the `front person' in Eligael's video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a89NLhHS7Mw&feature=player_embedded- here's a link to the co-ordination of the first two eligal views - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwp_WHFhA4A&feature=player_embedded and this is the overlay of all the videos up to this point - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vaqf8imYkc (many call this video two and the `tourist video' number three)
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It was at this point - that Video Four - shot by teenagers, surfaced - (I found when it had 400 views, it had 4,800 when I posted a hour later, 385K now) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RF87eEUXmM (this link shows view four with the videos one and three on the sides - http://www.youtube.com/user/damajikninja#p/u/6/sPdIaaMqaVo)
from yet another vantage point of the city - the view that showed the Orb was moving when near the ground. (Evidently, Eligael was almost head-on to the movement with those videos.)
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The `Full Version' of the above video then surfaced, showing the kids fooling around prior to the Orb event -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVyI9JWjxfQ&feature=player_embedded - so call this link - Video Four Full view. Eligael also returned to this site and filmed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weOjAiks40s
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Then, this video from a security cam claimed it might have captured the UFO in one frame - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bubMki2qsHE&feature=player_embedded and, if you speak spanish or whatever the language is in this video - this might be further `proof' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkEaxeBmybQ
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The four videos overlayed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVbLHMHZCQU&feature=player_embedded
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Yet another webcam view claiming a hit - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgwclt_webcam-with-panorama-view-of-jerusalem-at-time-of-ufo_tech
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Eventually - UDCC broke the news of the `underneath' Jerusalem Orb video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkRqoHnSN2A&feature=player_embedded and STILL with only 3,200 views. Call this the FIFTH Video
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Then, just in the last 10 days - two more pieces of the pie - a YouTube which shows two STILL photos from the ground - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dvWi-jGw2GI
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And, finally, yet another angle of the event possibly from a hotel roof - call this Video SIX - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iCcLc7mVu0o
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While the event has already been largely placed into the waste bin by the MSM or the LSM (lamestream media) - `stuff' continues to bubble it's way to the surface of public awareness - no one should be surprised if there is indeed more `evidence' to come.
Below, I will also point to some hear-say info too from other sources on the ground - and references to Israeli media mentions.
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Side data of interest - this graph answers the question, raised by the skeptics early that no one in Israel was interested (they were) or mentioning the event --- it also answers `strangely' the near Washington D.C. city MOST interested in the event in the WORLD - http://www.google.com/trends?q=jerusalem+ufo&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
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as - you see - hoaxkiller1 was hardly the perfect `refute man':
Apocacist says:
March 14, 2011 at 11:57 AM
Actually, the non-parallax is issue is entirely bogus. I just posted some comments on Hoaxkiller1′s video to this effect. Camera shake is caused by the camera ROTATING and not by the camera TRANSLATING (moving side to side, up and down without rotating).
Parallax NEVER EVER occurs due to rotation. Hoaxkiller1 is completely wrong. His argument will work on ANY video EVER taken. It is impossible to find parallax caused by camera shake in ANY video.
The above is part of the `discussion' when the FIFTH (really the sixth) video surfaced just a few days ago -- the discussion is still raging - http://www.ghosttheory.com/2011/03/14/5th-video-of-the-jerusalem-ufo-surfaces
Indeed, here is TWO more videos that totally blow away all of hoaxkiller1's ideas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfka0t_krEs and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z31scNm8fLg. - But, in all honesty, I have no F-ing idea -- what I DO know is that ANY video will need additional confirmation videos and circumstances that do not seem dubious - and UDCC will continue to dig and provide analysis based on the above.
First, common sense suggests, and my suggestion is to go to hoaxkiller1's YT channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/HOAXKiller1#p/u and judge for yourself; - but, before the Jerusalem Orb, he had 18 posted videos and none of which are debunking anything of significance and his first couple videos are almost comical in their simplicity. BTW, his YT self-description reads this way: For the record.... I believe aliens could exist. I just hate hoaxes. I am that guy who can see a magic trick and tell you how it was done. If I think something is a hoax, 99.9% of the time it is one. -----------------------------------------
End of story, evidently.
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By 2-3-11 - this blog below was regurgitating the same spew - http://miragemen.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/star-over-jerusalem/ - and adding the video(s) and setup was too perfect to be real.
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That was all the MSM needed - as 2/4 saw NPR's first coverage to be negative/hoaxy - signaling the MSM's change (up until now most coverage had been `what's that?http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/03/ufo-jerusalems-dome-rock-baffles-experts/) http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/02/04/133493963/a-ufo-over-jerusalem-only-if-you-believe-in-those-sorts-things - a quote:
Is it a hoax? Probably. Or, maybe, it's just an illusion, a trick of the eye and there's some more down-to-earth explanation. But, for the moment, it's fun to take it at face value and just wonder: What was that?
I ask Clockers, is an illusion or trick of the eye - a real suggestion? Or a disingenuous one?
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That was following this
http://ufos.about.com/b/2011/02/04/jerusalem-ufo-a-hoax.htm
and Discovery.Com statement the same day - http://news.discovery.com/space/jerusalem-ufo-almost-certainly-a-hoax.html - not everyone reading the Discovery explanation is impressed with this article either:
From one of the recent comments:
Wow, that was the most lame explanation for these videos being a hoax, several videos, shot from several angles, from different areas of the city, showing the exact same thing. And your argument is: The UFO is too small, and 2, no light reflecting off top of dome. Wow! I'm not saying these videos are real, you just need to come up with better evidence then that.
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Meanwhile, the spindoctors on the opposite end at ATS - were just as frightened at the prospect of a real anomaly - with the first `discussion' like this - http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread663159/pg1 and eventually linking to UDCC in this link with an ominous thread number - http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread665666/pg1 (665666?) - and eventually GLP (Godlike Productions) too. (can't find link this second)
Even this UFO site crumbled with no more proof than that a fake video could be made - http://www.theufochronicles.com/2011/02/jerusalem-ufo-videos-dome-of-rock-ufo.html and then this:
http://www.livescience.com/12826-jerusalem-ufo-hoax.html
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All of the lamestream media eventually said the Jerusalem Event was a probable hoax. And, that was that for the MSM.
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But, then the counter punches started too: Here's a Great Rebuttal to the early naysayers of the MSM and internet - even if it's by M.Cohen (despised in some quarters for his WRONG info) http://www.allnewsweb.com/page1199999486.php - here's a highlight:"Meanwhile none of the witnesses are talking at all, to anyone. This seems more indicative of a cover-up than a hoax. The fourth video was filmed by a group of Israeli teens Yuli Cohen, Michael Naumkoff and Dor Tibi. Even the vaguest mention of the UFO event is eerily absent from all their facebook pages. When I last spoke to Eligael Gedalyovich he seemed concerned, he talked about the shooting down of a UFO six weeks earlier over an Israeli military installation. He wondered if those covering up alien events would object to him releasing the footage. It seems they might have"--------------------------------------
Why? Do teen hoaxers really behave this way?
The videotographer of first piece of footage (Eligael Gedalyovich) has not even bothered to remove rather graphic messages accusing him of being a hoaxer from his Youtube Channel: Very odd for a "Hoaxer".
Debunkers are also clinging to the untruth that there have been no additional witnesses beyond the videotographers. At least three other witnesses have come forward and their testimonies appear pretty credible. An orthodox Jew has posted on an Israeli forum that he and four other friends saw the red lights in the sky but not the desending UFO: That sounds about right for the vast majority of possible locations in Jerusalem where the Dome or the glowing UFO would certainly not have been visible. Interestingly, a Palestinian woman paying respects at the Al-Aqsa Mosque (at the Dome of the Rock) has claimed she saw a glowing orb floating above the Mosque months before the event and even asked the Mosque's Grand Imam about it.
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Let us not forget what all the fuss is about - from - 4+ angles - with multiple uploaders - the `hoax' the MSM refused to face:
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Video Three --- This link was uploaded on 1/30 by Allnewsweb - almost notorious for `bad' UFO videos (my take on allnewsweb is slightly different, but not much) - ANW sites another `seen on' link, which may be it's source or simply a backlink as I can't get it to load - (but now I believe this is Eligael's friend and uploader - http://www.youtube.com/user/shshsh331)
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/206/770.html - as you know, the story is that this video is the guy in front of Eligael -- here's what Allnewsweb posted as the description:
On Saturday All News Web reported on a UFO video taken from the Armon Hanatziv panoramic lookout in Jerusalem, Israel.
The UFO is seen descending almost to the level of the Dome of the Rock/Temple Mount, the spot where the Al Aksa Mosque stands and the Jewish Holy of Holies is believed to have been located once.
Since then this UFO video has spread like wildfire across the net; Hailed as proof of alien visitation.
In the video a second witness was seen filming the UFO event and now it seems that witness has uploaded his video online (see below).
We are now waiting for more witnesses to come forward claiming to have also seen the UFO.
We have had one email from one Jerusalemite, Mr Menachem Ben David, a resident of the Talpiot. Mr Ben David on seeing the video himself, claims that he was walking back from late night prayers at the Western Wall when he did notice an unusual flash of light: however he did not see any UFOs.
Interestingly, ancient Jewish texts talk of a ball of light that would descend to the Temple to ignite the sacrificial altar in days gone by. Was this ball of light being sent down by aliens?
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Video Four - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RF87eEUXmM - http://www.youtube.com/user/YDMU1 - The YT account of the teen uploader. Well worth seeing for the comments alone. Eligael, BTW, returned to the scene of the video by the teens - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weOjAiks40s
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Video Five - (Underneath View) - GrumpSkull, (25 uploads) http://www.youtube.com/user/GrumpSkull-- Almost as curious as the source for the `tourist video' is the source for the underneath view - Grumpskull - perhaps a junior debunker - as he has multiple strange `REMAKES' of videos; - for example, on Video Five there is the version UDCC links to above uploaded by GrumpSkull -- BUT - if you visit his Channel there is a different video - that shows more details in a way but ALSO includes the supposedly fake video two (tourist video) vocalizations - (WTF)http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=cZuZ_ha2XtM - this is almost a must see if you want to be totally confused. That said, all that said, GrumpSkull also seemingly brings some very close looks at the Jerusalem Orb that do not seem like funny business (close up featured stuff)
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Video Six - New Long View (Hotel?) - Allnewsweb and several others on 3-13 had this posted. (They call it video five) Hard to tell the first poster or origin of the video on YT.
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The STILL Photo's Video - Interestingly, to UDCC, perhaps the most credible of all to the whole Jerusalem affair is the account of 35 year old Israel man - Mr. Levine - http://www.youtube.com/user/MrThomasLevine
and the words he uses for his four video account:I personally photo these pictures. These are real from that night January 28 2011. This pictures proof of real Orb Spirit Ghost over Jerusalem Temple Mount Dome of the Rock. This is not UFO or solid craft. This is Apparition that appear from nowhere and disappear just as fast. There was bright light after I took second photo. There was also red lights high in sky but my camera could not pick up picture because they were not bright enough. Please respect me and my family privacy. I only want to share to the world these magnificant photos. God be with you.
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Again - a simple excellent link to the Jerusalem Orb - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLT-CyHk8P4 and here's another with slow motions - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM56l5s4aqA
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(7:21 edit - breaking news, 295 views - New Video)
The morning of the 30th - I found the video in YouTube search and it had about 22,000 views already - and posted it - the video has 1.68 million views today. It was known as Video One:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-bNOy_CKQ&feature=player_embedded -- I used these words to describe it: Here's one from this week that stands out and stands out bold. One problem, the guy responds to the SECOND move of the UFO BEFORE it occurs (could this be a delay in the recording somehow?). Other than that - and the obvious lack of reports on the ground when it was hovering there - this is a winner video:
The video was posted by Eligael Gedalyovich, who has seemingly been the focus of the MSM - I will also review other video posters separately.
Here's background info on the cases most prominent poster EG: Facebook account:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_196061063754905&ap=1#!/home.php?sk=group_196061063754905&ap=1 His YouTube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/eligael#p/u/5/nUYQ8WlLJB8 his self-description at YT - On 28.01.2011 I was a witness to an UFO sighting over the Dome of the rock in Jerusalem. Since that day my life changed until I've got a suden urge to investigate the meaning of this message.... he has also returned to the spot and provided this second video of the location - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXCEj-fOyEc -- Oh, one more insight by Eligael, in this link he discusses his feelings on all this - http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Eligael-Gedalyovich-Witness-Online-Testimony-Jerusalem-UFO
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You'll note that in my comment I remarked about the need for confirmation from the ground level. Stay tuned.
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The VERY next day - in my YouTube search - I found JUST THAT - the close-up video that became known as the `tourist video' due to the audio with the video - UDCC responded this way: IF this isn't some movie promo OR sophisticated hoax - we HAVE moved to a new level. IMO.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2FFEufsuY&feature=player_embedded and on Feb. 1st on UDCC I provided a link to a `similar' Orb Dropping in Utah on the same evening of Jan. 28th - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZtDM8vt3rg&feature=player_embedded - later to be claimed to be a hoax by a person who stepped forward in Utah;
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the video also triggered huge screams of FAKE from a few longtime naysayers, and some NOT so longtime (where is the flash?). ----- I will cover the `MSM Analysis' of `Fake' a bit later in this presentation. ------ Anyway, back to Video Two (others call this video three), which had only 1,500 views when I posted it - now it has 2.2 million views: It was uploaded by a guy with a YouTube name of 50nFit - his self description: Proof Jerusalem UFO video is real. A new video of the UFO over Jerusalem surfaced tonight from a tourist that was filming while on a late night tour of Jerusalem on January 28th 2011. The video is not the clearest because it was dark out, but it catches the same glowing orb that was caught on tape from across town.http://www.youtube.com/user/50nFit and HE found (links) the clip here (however, the clip at the Vietnam site is HIS video) - http://www.zing.vn/news/the-gioi/vat-the-ky-la-lo-lung-tren-bau-troi-jerusalem/a105928.html (A site from Vietnam I think.) I then ran a `translation' at the Vietnam site and it simply says: The clip shows a globe glowing slowly lowered slowly down until it stops just above the roof of the temple on Temple Mount mosques (Temple Mount) in Jerusalem. Then no flying objects (UFO) defines aircraft hovering over the temple and climbed in mid-air.
Globe suspended suddenly stops soaring in the sky.
The event took place on 1 h on 29/1. However, the video has sparked a debate on about whether it is tháºy or staged.
On Feb. 1st, I also noted the concurrence of the Jerusalem UFO with the political events in Egypt - just like the NYC Orbs occurring during the Chilean miner rescue. I even used words like this on 2-1-11:
In the quest of the human mind to look for patterns and meanings - could the desire by many for such higher contact play out in a manner of believability? One with a structure that sets up a belief in the actualization's? Making the actualization's even more believable?
Now - Video Three - is supposedly the `front person' in Eligael's video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a89NLhHS7Mw&feature=player_embedded- here's a link to the co-ordination of the first two eligal views - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwp_WHFhA4A&feature=player_embedded and this is the overlay of all the videos up to this point - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vaqf8imYkc (many call this video two and the `tourist video' number three)
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It was at this point - that Video Four - shot by teenagers, surfaced - (I found when it had 400 views, it had 4,800 when I posted a hour later, 385K now) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RF87eEUXmM (this link shows view four with the videos one and three on the sides - http://www.youtube.com/user/damajikninja#p/u/6/sPdIaaMqaVo)
from yet another vantage point of the city - the view that showed the Orb was moving when near the ground. (Evidently, Eligael was almost head-on to the movement with those videos.)
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The `Full Version' of the above video then surfaced, showing the kids fooling around prior to the Orb event -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVyI9JWjxfQ&feature=player_embedded - so call this link - Video Four Full view. Eligael also returned to this site and filmed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weOjAiks40s
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Then, this video from a security cam claimed it might have captured the UFO in one frame - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bubMki2qsHE&feature=player_embedded and, if you speak spanish or whatever the language is in this video - this might be further `proof' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkEaxeBmybQ
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The four videos overlayed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVbLHMHZCQU&feature=player_embedded
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Yet another webcam view claiming a hit - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgwclt_webcam-with-panorama-view-of-jerusalem-at-time-of-ufo_tech
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Eventually - UDCC broke the news of the `underneath' Jerusalem Orb video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkRqoHnSN2A&feature=player_embedded and STILL with only 3,200 views. Call this the FIFTH Video
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Then, just in the last 10 days - two more pieces of the pie - a YouTube which shows two STILL photos from the ground - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dvWi-jGw2GI
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And, finally, yet another angle of the event possibly from a hotel roof - call this Video SIX - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iCcLc7mVu0o
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While the event has already been largely placed into the waste bin by the MSM or the LSM (lamestream media) - `stuff' continues to bubble it's way to the surface of public awareness - no one should be surprised if there is indeed more `evidence' to come.
Below, I will also point to some hear-say info too from other sources on the ground - and references to Israeli media mentions.
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Side data of interest - this graph answers the question, raised by the skeptics early that no one in Israel was interested (they were) or mentioning the event --- it also answers `strangely' the near Washington D.C. city MOST interested in the event in the WORLD - http://www.google.com/trends?q=jerusalem+ufo&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
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The `Hoax' Scuttlebutt
Unlike 99%+ of all UFO videos that get uploaded to YouTube - this one did make the MSM after several days. Indeed, by 1/31 - this was on the internet - http://blogs.howstuffworks.com/2011/01/31/the-jerusalem-ufo-at-dome-of-the-rock-on-january-28-2011/ - which began to point at work already uploaded on 1/30 by hoaxkiller1 (YouTube screen name) - citing all sorts of problems with the videos available. Even saying one was simply a Wikipedia page video for the background with the UFO overlayed onto the page scene.
Clockers know, IMO, those words were complete and utter bullcrap - as I could clearly see differences in the Wiki picture and the video. But, boy, to SAY that the first `close up' and in reality - the `confirmation' view was bogus - was certainly a possible coop, and certainly was ready to put a certain fire out before it got started too strongly.
And, who ultimately knows about the `tourist video' or any of them - but - they are adding up; - indeed, this video below, is only part of the debunking the debunkers stuff available:
as - you see - hoaxkiller1 was hardly the perfect `refute man':
Apocacist says:
March 14, 2011 at 11:57 AM
Actually, the non-parallax is issue is entirely bogus. I just posted some comments on Hoaxkiller1′s video to this effect. Camera shake is caused by the camera ROTATING and not by the camera TRANSLATING (moving side to side, up and down without rotating).
Parallax NEVER EVER occurs due to rotation. Hoaxkiller1 is completely wrong. His argument will work on ANY video EVER taken. It is impossible to find parallax caused by camera shake in ANY video.
The above is part of the `discussion' when the FIFTH (really the sixth) video surfaced just a few days ago -- the discussion is still raging - http://www.ghosttheory.com/2011/03/14/5th-video-of-the-jerusalem-ufo-surfaces
Indeed, here is TWO more videos that totally blow away all of hoaxkiller1's ideas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfka0t_krEs and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z31scNm8fLg. - But, in all honesty, I have no F-ing idea -- what I DO know is that ANY video will need additional confirmation videos and circumstances that do not seem dubious - and UDCC will continue to dig and provide analysis based on the above.
First, common sense suggests, and my suggestion is to go to hoaxkiller1's YT channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/HOAXKiller1#p/u and judge for yourself; - but, before the Jerusalem Orb, he had 18 posted videos and none of which are debunking anything of significance and his first couple videos are almost comical in their simplicity. BTW, his YT self-description reads this way: For the record.... I believe aliens could exist. I just hate hoaxes. I am that guy who can see a magic trick and tell you how it was done. If I think something is a hoax, 99.9% of the time it is one. -----------------------------------------
End of story, evidently.
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By 2-3-11 - this blog below was regurgitating the same spew - http://miragemen.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/star-over-jerusalem/ - and adding the video(s) and setup was too perfect to be real.
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That was all the MSM needed - as 2/4 saw NPR's first coverage to be negative/hoaxy - signaling the MSM's change (up until now most coverage had been `what's that?http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/03/ufo-jerusalems-dome-rock-baffles-experts/) http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/02/04/133493963/a-ufo-over-jerusalem-only-if-you-believe-in-those-sorts-things - a quote:
Is it a hoax? Probably. Or, maybe, it's just an illusion, a trick of the eye and there's some more down-to-earth explanation. But, for the moment, it's fun to take it at face value and just wonder: What was that?
I ask Clockers, is an illusion or trick of the eye - a real suggestion? Or a disingenuous one?
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That was following this
http://ufos.about.com/b/2011/02/04/jerusalem-ufo-a-hoax.htm
and Discovery.Com statement the same day - http://news.discovery.com/space/jerusalem-ufo-almost-certainly-a-hoax.html - not everyone reading the Discovery explanation is impressed with this article either:
From one of the recent comments:
Wow, that was the most lame explanation for these videos being a hoax, several videos, shot from several angles, from different areas of the city, showing the exact same thing. And your argument is: The UFO is too small, and 2, no light reflecting off top of dome. Wow! I'm not saying these videos are real, you just need to come up with better evidence then that.
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Meanwhile, the spindoctors on the opposite end at ATS - were just as frightened at the prospect of a real anomaly - with the first `discussion' like this - http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread663159/pg1 and eventually linking to UDCC in this link with an ominous thread number - http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread665666/pg1 (665666?) - and eventually GLP (Godlike Productions) too. (can't find link this second)
Even this UFO site crumbled with no more proof than that a fake video could be made - http://www.theufochronicles.com/2011/02/jerusalem-ufo-videos-dome-of-rock-ufo.html and then this:
http://www.livescience.com/12826-jerusalem-ufo-hoax.html
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All of the lamestream media eventually said the Jerusalem Event was a probable hoax. And, that was that for the MSM.
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But, then the counter punches started too: Here's a Great Rebuttal to the early naysayers of the MSM and internet - even if it's by M.Cohen (despised in some quarters for his WRONG info) http://www.allnewsweb.com/page1199999486.php - here's a highlight:"Meanwhile none of the witnesses are talking at all, to anyone. This seems more indicative of a cover-up than a hoax. The fourth video was filmed by a group of Israeli teens Yuli Cohen, Michael Naumkoff and Dor Tibi. Even the vaguest mention of the UFO event is eerily absent from all their facebook pages. When I last spoke to Eligael Gedalyovich he seemed concerned, he talked about the shooting down of a UFO six weeks earlier over an Israeli military installation. He wondered if those covering up alien events would object to him releasing the footage. It seems they might have"--------------------------------------
Why? Do teen hoaxers really behave this way?
The videotographer of first piece of footage (Eligael Gedalyovich) has not even bothered to remove rather graphic messages accusing him of being a hoaxer from his Youtube Channel: Very odd for a "Hoaxer".
Debunkers are also clinging to the untruth that there have been no additional witnesses beyond the videotographers. At least three other witnesses have come forward and their testimonies appear pretty credible. An orthodox Jew has posted on an Israeli forum that he and four other friends saw the red lights in the sky but not the desending UFO: That sounds about right for the vast majority of possible locations in Jerusalem where the Dome or the glowing UFO would certainly not have been visible. Interestingly, a Palestinian woman paying respects at the Al-Aqsa Mosque (at the Dome of the Rock) has claimed she saw a glowing orb floating above the Mosque months before the event and even asked the Mosque's Grand Imam about it.
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Let us not forget what all the fuss is about - from - 4+ angles - with multiple uploaders - the `hoax' the MSM refused to face:
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Other Uploaders Sourced:
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/206/770.html - as you know, the story is that this video is the guy in front of Eligael -- here's what Allnewsweb posted as the description:
On Saturday All News Web reported on a UFO video taken from the Armon Hanatziv panoramic lookout in Jerusalem, Israel.
The UFO is seen descending almost to the level of the Dome of the Rock/Temple Mount, the spot where the Al Aksa Mosque stands and the Jewish Holy of Holies is believed to have been located once.
Since then this UFO video has spread like wildfire across the net; Hailed as proof of alien visitation.
In the video a second witness was seen filming the UFO event and now it seems that witness has uploaded his video online (see below).
We are now waiting for more witnesses to come forward claiming to have also seen the UFO.
We have had one email from one Jerusalemite, Mr Menachem Ben David, a resident of the Talpiot. Mr Ben David on seeing the video himself, claims that he was walking back from late night prayers at the Western Wall when he did notice an unusual flash of light: however he did not see any UFOs.
Interestingly, ancient Jewish texts talk of a ball of light that would descend to the Temple to ignite the sacrificial altar in days gone by. Was this ball of light being sent down by aliens?
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Video Four - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RF87eEUXmM - http://www.youtube.com/user/YDMU1 - The YT account of the teen uploader. Well worth seeing for the comments alone. Eligael, BTW, returned to the scene of the video by the teens - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weOjAiks40s
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Video Five - (Underneath View) - GrumpSkull, (25 uploads) http://www.youtube.com/user/GrumpSkull-- Almost as curious as the source for the `tourist video' is the source for the underneath view - Grumpskull - perhaps a junior debunker - as he has multiple strange `REMAKES' of videos; - for example, on Video Five there is the version UDCC links to above uploaded by GrumpSkull -- BUT - if you visit his Channel there is a different video - that shows more details in a way but ALSO includes the supposedly fake video two (tourist video) vocalizations - (WTF)http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=cZuZ_ha2XtM - this is almost a must see if you want to be totally confused. That said, all that said, GrumpSkull also seemingly brings some very close looks at the Jerusalem Orb that do not seem like funny business (close up featured stuff)
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Video Six - New Long View (Hotel?) - Allnewsweb and several others on 3-13 had this posted. (They call it video five) Hard to tell the first poster or origin of the video on YT.
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The STILL Photo's Video - Interestingly, to UDCC, perhaps the most credible of all to the whole Jerusalem affair is the account of 35 year old Israel man - Mr. Levine - http://www.youtube.com/user/MrThomasLevine
and the words he uses for his four video account:I personally photo these pictures. These are real from that night January 28 2011. This pictures proof of real Orb Spirit Ghost over Jerusalem Temple Mount Dome of the Rock. This is not UFO or solid craft. This is Apparition that appear from nowhere and disappear just as fast. There was bright light after I took second photo. There was also red lights high in sky but my camera could not pick up picture because they were not bright enough. Please respect me and my family privacy. I only want to share to the world these magnificant photos. God be with you.
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Again - a simple excellent link to the Jerusalem Orb - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLT-CyHk8P4 and here's another with slow motions - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM56l5s4aqA
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The Jerusalem Orb - Circus Sideshow
Did Israel Shoot Down A UFO/Orb In December?
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-shoots-down-suspicious-flying-object-near-dimona-nuclear-reactor-1.330959
And, was a `Spirit Orb' filmed that SAME DAY in Israel?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSmdhQ88Ts&feature=player_embedded
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Mentioned only slightly - Was the Jerusalem Orb `fired' at? http://www.goddiscussion.com/40705/another-ufo-over-jerusalem-video-shows-up-with-claims-that-the-object-was-fired-at/
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-shoots-down-suspicious-flying-object-near-dimona-nuclear-reactor-1.330959
And, was a `Spirit Orb' filmed that SAME DAY in Israel?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSmdhQ88Ts&feature=player_embedded
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Mentioned only slightly - Was the Jerusalem Orb `fired' at? http://www.goddiscussion.com/40705/another-ufo-over-jerusalem-video-shows-up-with-claims-that-the-object-was-fired-at/
Was the Orb part of the Stanley Fulham predictions by happening in January; even if two weeks late?
Was Stanley Fulham's prediction correct - and the 20 minute downtown TORONTO Orb was the fulfillment? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVHttcPlU4k&feature=player_embedded And, was the Jerusalem Orb simply an attempt by aliens to get the MSM's attention?
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Were HUGE Electrical Generators moved into the Jerusalem square only days prior to the Orb? Could they have had anything to do with it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ZitlrRLgs
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Summary Analysis As Of 3-19-11
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In my opinion, The Jerusalem Orb of January 29th, 2011, was a REAL event and was NOT a hoax. That said, it IS possible, IMO, that BOTH of the `close-up' videos - the `tourist video' and the `underneath video' have been manufactured. Note, that I said, POSSIBLE - not certain. My reasons go more to the profile of the YT posters on those vids; that said, IMO, it is also possible, that all six views are legit.
So, ultimately, there may be only 4 video views of the event - with 3 different angles. Not including the still photos of Mr. Levine and other on-the-ground comments. If we are to believe what we read, witnesses are reluctant, to afraid, to come forward - so ultimately, this may all we will have to judge the event phenomena.
As I said above, I have no proof that either hoaxkiller1 or his detractors are correct. But, I do know that the media was depending on his early scuttlebutt and articulation. And, IF hoaxkiller1 had been some longtime wizard from a movie studio with a long record of debunking videos on the internet - I could have bought why the MSM `bought' his ideas. BUT, he had NONE of those characteristics on the face of things, and was hardly an `expert' for the MSM to go to on such a potentially important UFO case. Really, nothing more than the LAMESTREAM media we have all come to expect.
But, it's just as curious that the ATS's of the world took the same bait (if we are to believe they are NOT the MSM in disguise) - and `they' seemingly grew very weary of `new evidence' as IMO their house of cards had no structure - at least in this case. And, as I have said of the MSM before and now I will include the ATS's of the internet world --- ORBs are almost a FORBIDDEN subject - IF we assign some sort of `life' to them.
But, the bigger story - is - what WAS THAT LIGHT, why did it `act' that way, and, was the Jerusalem Orb part of a BIGGER picture outlined in the side issues above in this presentation. As you know, I can only guess and offer my opinion.
And, IF I were forced to choose - I'd say the `Light' was a `Spirit Orb' - for lack of better words - that was possibly `triggered' by a build-up of human emotions, actions and intentionality's.
BUT, I also find the Toronto Orb event two weeks earlier nearly impossible to ignore - and when I do that - the possibility of `using the Jerusalem Orb' to fulfill the Fulham prediction, and mankind's supposed near term involvement with `aliens' (who are here to clean the Earth's atmosphere) simply makes PERFECT sense too.
Once again, time may tell. Fulham said this was to be an accelerating pace (like EXPECT something again SOON type stuff) to gets us humans ready for the idea. So, if we DON'T see that - certainly the Spirit Orb idea is more positioned. BUT, IF soon, we seen more and more extraordinary events beyond the scope of what seems humanly possible - then, perhaps, an `Orb' is nothing but a disguise for Aliens.
In either case - IMO, we have been handed a calling card, but, it simply doesn't work - yet.
Finally, the Generators do muddy up the waters just a bit - as far as creating some sort of plasma hologram or something of that ilk. And, the Dec. 16th Orb filming in the same location being the same date as the reported UFO shot down - combined with the mention of the anomaly in the Jerusalem Orb tape that seemingly shows flashing to the side of the orb - (the generators shooting?) - yes, mucks it all up even a bit more.
But, ultimately, UDCC feels the media `caved in' way too early to the hoax idea and are totally threatened if they have to explain `Orbs'. Therefore, they took the easy way out on an event that IMO - Did Happen.
As it slips beyond the event horizon of 50 days ago.
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Were HUGE Electrical Generators moved into the Jerusalem square only days prior to the Orb? Could they have had anything to do with it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ZitlrRLgs
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Summary Analysis As Of 3-19-11
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In my opinion, The Jerusalem Orb of January 29th, 2011, was a REAL event and was NOT a hoax. That said, it IS possible, IMO, that BOTH of the `close-up' videos - the `tourist video' and the `underneath video' have been manufactured. Note, that I said, POSSIBLE - not certain. My reasons go more to the profile of the YT posters on those vids; that said, IMO, it is also possible, that all six views are legit.
So, ultimately, there may be only 4 video views of the event - with 3 different angles. Not including the still photos of Mr. Levine and other on-the-ground comments. If we are to believe what we read, witnesses are reluctant, to afraid, to come forward - so ultimately, this may all we will have to judge the event phenomena.
As I said above, I have no proof that either hoaxkiller1 or his detractors are correct. But, I do know that the media was depending on his early scuttlebutt and articulation. And, IF hoaxkiller1 had been some longtime wizard from a movie studio with a long record of debunking videos on the internet - I could have bought why the MSM `bought' his ideas. BUT, he had NONE of those characteristics on the face of things, and was hardly an `expert' for the MSM to go to on such a potentially important UFO case. Really, nothing more than the LAMESTREAM media we have all come to expect.
But, it's just as curious that the ATS's of the world took the same bait (if we are to believe they are NOT the MSM in disguise) - and `they' seemingly grew very weary of `new evidence' as IMO their house of cards had no structure - at least in this case. And, as I have said of the MSM before and now I will include the ATS's of the internet world --- ORBs are almost a FORBIDDEN subject - IF we assign some sort of `life' to them.
But, the bigger story - is - what WAS THAT LIGHT, why did it `act' that way, and, was the Jerusalem Orb part of a BIGGER picture outlined in the side issues above in this presentation. As you know, I can only guess and offer my opinion.
And, IF I were forced to choose - I'd say the `Light' was a `Spirit Orb' - for lack of better words - that was possibly `triggered' by a build-up of human emotions, actions and intentionality's.
BUT, I also find the Toronto Orb event two weeks earlier nearly impossible to ignore - and when I do that - the possibility of `using the Jerusalem Orb' to fulfill the Fulham prediction, and mankind's supposed near term involvement with `aliens' (who are here to clean the Earth's atmosphere) simply makes PERFECT sense too.
Once again, time may tell. Fulham said this was to be an accelerating pace (like EXPECT something again SOON type stuff) to gets us humans ready for the idea. So, if we DON'T see that - certainly the Spirit Orb idea is more positioned. BUT, IF soon, we seen more and more extraordinary events beyond the scope of what seems humanly possible - then, perhaps, an `Orb' is nothing but a disguise for Aliens.
In either case - IMO, we have been handed a calling card, but, it simply doesn't work - yet.
Finally, the Generators do muddy up the waters just a bit - as far as creating some sort of plasma hologram or something of that ilk. And, the Dec. 16th Orb filming in the same location being the same date as the reported UFO shot down - combined with the mention of the anomaly in the Jerusalem Orb tape that seemingly shows flashing to the side of the orb - (the generators shooting?) - yes, mucks it all up even a bit more.
But, ultimately, UDCC feels the media `caved in' way too early to the hoax idea and are totally threatened if they have to explain `Orbs'. Therefore, they took the easy way out on an event that IMO - Did Happen.
As it slips beyond the event horizon of 50 days ago.
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