Susan Rennison - In-Depth About `Spirit' Orbs

Hello Clockers and first time visitors to UDCC - I appreciate your visit today. And, today - I finally found the response that I beckoned from this blog a few weeks ago when I speculated that the Jerusalem Orb of Jan 29th was a `Spirit Orb'. What happened was that I checked my stats, and, in the referrals was something from Susan Rennison's website - upon checking I was able to see that she did respond to my inquiry for her to comment upon my speculation.

If you are not familiar with Ms Rennison - I consider her one of the very few grounded `wo-wo' people out there with religious leanings (well, actually very religious). Susan is however HUGELY in one camp that she and I share - plasma beings. Both she and I have lots of thoughts about the possibillity.

For literally HOURS of reading - make sure to trapse around Susan's webpages after this read below. Again, she is responding to a post I made here - http://ufodisclosurecountdownclock.blogspot.com/2011/03/speculations-about-spirit-orbs-and-why.html - a post with plenty of `meat' - and, as you can see by her response - she brings a substancial amount of thinking into her post that I re-print here from her blog: (about half way down this page - http://www.susanrennison.com/Best_oftheblog_UAP_traffic.html
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Comment: I saw that Rick mentioned my name and I tried to post a comment, I don't know whether it was received or not but this is what I wrote:



Hello Rick,


I have to say I do worry when you start speculating... LOL! Well, I am of the opinion that Earth has a Shadow Biosphere but some of these entities that you are calling 'Spirit Orbs' are actually universal messengers and they enforce certain universal directives. Basically, they keep the show on the road and in my book I called them the Earth Management Team. Earth is a school and it is managed, we are watched over but there is not as much interference as some would believe. This does not mean that ET outsiders do not exist, but I think the UFO phenomena is much more complex than most ufologists are prepared to accept and the vast majority of what has been detected by humans in the past are the Earth Management Team going about daily business.


In September 2006, when I self-published, I was very nervous about talking about another lifeform on this planet and so the quotes I used were quite cryptic. These days, I no longer care what people think, so I have lots of information on my www.susanrennison.com website that elucidates what I think is going on. I don't care about traditional sources either so I have paid close attention to channeled sources who were up front and stated they were not human.


Yes, that is right, some of these whacko New Agers are channelling entities that state up front they are Magnetic Masters and describe themselves in such a manner that someone like me who is interested in physics does a little research and discovers that our scientists acknowledge the existence of magnetospheric or magnetic plasmoids that are free to enter and leave Earth's atmosphere at will. These days we have some great video examples that reveal the same information provided to the metaphysical community back in 1993.


My views are based on my understanding of the integration of science and metaphysics. Matter is inherently unintelligent but spirit is where the intelligence is held. We are spiritual beings that means that we have this same essence as part of our earthly existence and this energy is now being changed on the whole planet rather like changing the oil in a car. It's that time again and it has been predicted by many different esoteric traditions.


Rick, there is a lot going on, and the metaphysical community have been given a lot of information but it seems to have been like water off a ducks back. A lot of these people are not interested in reality and just don't get it. Hence, when I answered a question during an interview (Henrik Palmgren, from Red Ice Radio in 2007) I got an email from someone claiming to be a shaman that basically told me I was going off the rails.


I am sure this person is now embarrassed beyond belief, especially if they have been following my website with the substantial evidence that our militaries have been hiding the existence of the "radar angels" since the 1940s when radar was first invented. Today, many military officers retired and some still in positions of power are now talking about the existence of the bright lights. Quite simply, if this person was a true shaman they would understand that these objects have been known to exist because all the true shamanic types have always been able to see them when under the influence let's say.


Due to a massive increase of energies on this planet caused by Space Weather, Earth is being transformed into a high energy cosmic environment and that means it is no longer possible to hide the presence of this other lifeform on this planet but we must remember that on certain parts of the Earth these orbs have always been seen my humans and I will cite the existence of the Min Min lights in Australia. Of course, there are lots of questions about whether they are all good or whether they are all bad but briefly I will say, we were told that there were some nasties on this planet and they are being booted off. Let's say I am not believing everything I am told without some good reason or evidence.


Hence, I can't agree with your ideas that the Jerusalem orb was a special act, we have had lots of special acts taking place on this planet and I have been watching in some amazement. I imagine that the Jerusalem 'Orb' is a spiritual entity on routine business picking up the energy associated with people's prayers and delivering them to where they need to go for processing. The energy levels on the planet are now very unstable and the fact that orbs and UFOs can sometimes be seen is a factor of energy levels that are fluctuating wildly and explains all the other sightings in the past.


The orbs do seem to interact and react to humans and the more ethereal types seem to hang around humans and like to appear at special events. Emotions seem to be the language that is used to communicate with them. We are seeing a lot of new major arrivals (called "Master Entities") and my belief is that they are not really interested in humans but they are arriving because of the type of region of space that we are travelling through. If you do the research into ancient mythology you will see the same concepts presented about how they operate in a high energy plasma environment, most are not the 'divine' messenger types and seem to be here for their own reasons and have no interest in humans.


Whatever, Rick, I am glad to see that you are bold enough to re-think this whole issue but there have been ufologists in the past that have done the same but they were shunned for voicing an alternative opinion. However the times are a-changing and soon it's going to get really obvious that some of these critters are not cargo ships.


I make the joke that Earth is going to become a cosmic aquarium... lately, it's been looking more and more likely.


With love, Susan Joy Rennison
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Wow, right Clockers? And, food for thought.


I hope that Susan has also read my latest on The Heavy Stuff too about this Orb Plasma stuff - Could THIS Be What ORBS ARE? - http://theheavystuff.com/?p=143
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ORBs, Extreme Possibility One And Two - Making The Case

As `Clockers' know, UDCC has been ALL over this emerging and seemingly intensifying ORB phenomena. (Or, is it really increasing? As we know, there has been a HUGE increase in videotaping ability by humans in recent years, which could account for the seeming incidence of `caught events'. And, of course, there simply are MORE humans - as our world now approaches the 7 billion mark; which could also lead to an increase in available sources of video.)

But, that said, at least at some level, the phenomena seems to be changing - whether it is the `multiple orb' phenomena of singular orbs floating/moving together - or the `multiple orb' phenomena of `releasing orbs' (from `a quote', `mothership', - or - simply a middle space or source space). UP TO the phenomena - seemingly shown a few times in recent months - of a HUGE drop towards the ground. Clockers know I'm referring to the El Paso and Jerusalem Drops.

But, let's look closer, once again, at this Orb Phenomena.

Now, and almost obviously, it could indeed be a so-called `mothership' that is releasing some sort of scout craft. But, let's play devil's advocate..... Why do the `scout craft' orbs fade out eventually? Does some sort of power source leave their space? Would `scout craft' FADE? Is IT really a mothership and scout craft?

And, almost as obviously, it is possible that the Orbs are some sort of Earth Geosurface Event caused by forces we simply do not understand yet via our science. But, again, playing devil's advocate - are there REALLY forces that move about in our skies, sometimes in huge swarms, sometimes, seemingly reacting to on the ground human conscious intentions - THAT ARE GEOSURFACE FORCES? Does that seem to be a bit of a stretch?

And, these `reasons for Orbs' noted above are the more `mainstream' of the suggestions offered by internet thinkers.

But, there are other possibilities also; much more interesting possibilities in some ways (granting scout craft plenty of interest, and the unknown `science' chance ) - and one is that Orbs are The Dead. I will let that sink in. -------- And, it is nothing I haven't suggested before or that others haven't said of `small orbs' that show up sometimes in photographs (appearing as bubbles literally often and occasionally with FACES in them).

But, I mean something that is indeed QUANTITATIVELY different from the possible `invisible bubble orbs' of photograph fame - SKY Orbs, IMO, are quantitatively different in these obvious ways: 1) You CAN see them. 2) They are in the SKY. 3) They have an ontology, instead of `existing invisibly' in a flash instant of film. 4) They seem to have `some' consciousness perhaps OR ability for intentionality.

I can think of two types of entities - (using the term loosely) that might fit the above general attribute description - The Dead, and, Sky Creatures. ---------- Let me flush out both of these, what I am calling, `extreme' possibilities; both descriptions of which suggest that you will need to suspend your dis-belief levels for a bit of time.

The `Collective' Dead

Humans at all stages of humanity are nearly universal in their desire to cling to existence after `dying'; at least while on this `the living side'. As Clockers would be aware, many humans report NDE's of a similar structure - and science can tell us how `we' might `survive' as some representation of our `electrical' structure of our space mass and existence itself. And, literature is replete with tales of Ghosts, even `specific' ghosts which would suggest a continuation of `phenomenological' ontology. Doppelgangers of dead people also are examples.

So, lets say that - indeed - all the tales of `balls of light' that are known in the `back hallows' are indeed, conscious balls of remnants of `someones space'. That said, we MUST be willing to admit, that they seemingly DO NOT have a permanent existence in our normal phenomenology either - NONE of these Orb phenomena simply travel the sky endlessly.

And, in classic slippery slope thinking - if you are willing to concede that `Ghost Orbs' can exist in a temporal fashion, then it is also possible to think that these `spirit orbs' may - BE ABLE TO COMBINE into something Larger, Brighter, More Permanent, (and yes, more conscious).

It is this `dead consciousness' that I think may be developing into these more extreme Orb phenomena -  as opposed to my thoughts here, in this post, from Oct. 2008 on my blog The Heavy Stuff: Can The `Collective Dead’ Of Humanity - Evolve? http://theheavystuff.com/?p=91 - in that post I wrote these words:

Frankly, nearly all ghost experiences seem limited to ONE ghost - seldom is it multiple ghosts - or a whole slew of ghosts. There doesn’t seem to be a `collective dead’ that is able to materialize. The ghosts that do materialize do not seem to be hanging out with others bringing their will/consciousness/space into our living world. (That is not to say that in some seances or `communications’ that some `additional’ spirit wants to take over the communication - so, two or even a few seems to be a limit.) Maybe it’s just hard to get folks together at the same `real’ place and same `real’ time when they have been `dead’ for awhile. Perhaps the `real’ just isn’t that interesting.

But, the question that THS is trying to get behind in this post is `could the dead evolve’? After-all, lots of gurus of thought have died - Einstein, Husserl, Gandhi, Sartre, —- does it matter what additional intelligence is added by their deaths? Could those interested in the subject matter of communicating with the dead - after they die - have access to NEW information about EVP or other methods? Could the `best heads’ be put together on the `other side’ to more effectively reach our humanity on `this side’?
Frankly, honestly, it doesn’t seem that experience of our collective reality is suggesting that the collective dead of humanity is evolving - except perhaps in one manner. A very speculative manner.
What if our consciousness IS light. Or, at best - could be light. What if the Tulpas or Orbs seen in the sky more often in the last few years are a result of `conscious light’ visiting Earth and humans. Conscious light that is developing, evolving, from the 95 billion dead humans of the last million years. Especially, the `intelligent’ ones who have died recently with more awareness than in times and eras past.
THS is reminded of the Carlos Castaneda book - The Eagles Gift - which ends on Page 315 (hardback version) with the final visions that Carlos had of the Sorcerer Don Juan - as they all jumped off a cliff to their certain death.
“On my left side, however, I realized that I had entered into the other self….The warriors of don Juan’s party had caught me for an eternal instant, before they vanished into the total light……They were waiting for don Juan and don Genaro. I saw don Juan taking the lead. And then there was only a line of exquisite lights in the sky….There was a massive glow on one end of the lights where don Juan was…”


Perhaps the best that a human can attain is being `free light’ able to roam the cosmos with intentionality’s. And, that would be quite an evolution for the ape with opposing thumbs.

So, what I am indeed suggesting, is that it is possible that the increased abilities may be due to an evolution from `the other side'. What if THEY are now more able to retain folks remaining bits of awareness and package it almost as a group consciousness ball of light. Much like what Don Juan is said to have done.

(Noosphere full of consciousness)

OR, - we may indeed be seeing SKY CREATURES - that indeed, could somehow be `developing' or evolving right before our humankind eyes. Some sort of emerging intelligence using the plasma of the world and atmosphere. And, these sky creatures may not even need a permanent structure - simply coming together in the visible perception wavelength - only on occasion. Perhaps, NOT EVEN EXISTING, in an on-going manner that we consider on-going as humans. Sort of a temporal, emerging and fading, phenomena - at least to our perception.

(And, yes, orbs could be `rods' that have `grown up', so to speak.)

Finally, it is worth considering that our Earth's Noosphere is growing more full of data and information by the millisecond, in electrical form structure thru intentionality's by humans on keyboards such as the one producing these words of a phenomenological basis. An electrical grid that may be able to be tapped by forces we as humankind know very little about.

Forces, such as an evolving dead - or - an increasingly organized plasma entity structure to our perceptions.

Thanks for giving me your mind while I slogged my way thru things that must be said about Orbs - and why Orbs - may be a gateway to thinking about the universe in a different manner.
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I'm open as always to your comments and thoughts.
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All one hundred plus posts done on The Heavy Stuff with a brief description of each post - http://www.squidoo.com/theheavystuff#module2462278 THS was my original esoteric blog and where I talked about UFOs before Nov. 2007 here at UDCC.
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Lastly, I mentioned the Quote above from The Eagles Gift - here is the book: