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Wednesday, October 23, 2013

UFOs: "The Times Are a Changing" (Joe Capp) - And, My Viewpoint!

Hello Clockers. In the last couple days I've run across a couple `UFO' or esoteric posts on other websites that I'd like to bring to your attention and to respond to..... the first is from Joe Capp and his blog `UFO Media Matters' .... and indeed it (MSM) does matter as Clockers know. Anyway, I link directly to Joe's UFO blog but this post is on top and dated Oct. 1st.... as I said, I'd like to comment on particular points that Joe makes (btw, Joe and I are BOTH witnesses to what appear to be similar UFO's but many years apart - mine in 1991 as an adult, Joe's was as a teen I believe).

His statement:
Well people, if  UFOs are not spaceships from other planets that means  to me Star Travel has never been achieved - Period!

My statement:
Total overstatement for a variety of reasons. One, the `entities' that are anomalous and observed may be of multiple types - some of which can be related to human consciousness. Indeed, most if not nearly all `spaceships' IMO are not `Star Travel' related.
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His Statement:
Fermi's Paradox says :"if there is other intelligent life where are they?"

What could the answer be?; They are not as technological? They are very far away? We are alone in the universe? There is no way to get to other stars?

The universe is ten billion years older than our star. Some of the stars around us are billions of years older than our sun.  Now they have discovered hundreds of planets around these stars. So where are they?


My Statement:
If the observations of our science experiments and theories are correct - the `sun' is closer to 9 billions after the BB - and what really matters in all this are `second generation' stars which can form the seeds of life -- they are less old of course... but... thinking this further... the EARTH has only had a SOLID surface for a smaller fraction since the big bang etc etc... there is plenty of reason to think that unless the probes are plentiful and everywhere that they aren't focused on our planet or WEREN"T until our own radiowaves. MY Calculations show that there may be only 200 advanced http://ufodisclosurecountdownclock.blogspot.com/2013/04/200-advanced-civilizations-in-milky-way.html (radio level or more) civilizations of radio level or more in a concurrent fashion in the Milky Way (our galaxy 120,000 light years in length) -- that means that we are indeed VERY spread out most likely and that unless travel can be done beyond the speed of light... is very likely to only be done by non biological entities/crafts. 

So, like us -- who can't get to there --- and only 200 similar civilizations exist - who may only have a few that COULD get to here EVEN below the speed of light -- the answers to Joe's questions are.... only a few are even as technological... yes they are FAR AWAY in every sense of the word.. it means nothing as far as being alone and finally .... it may indeed be impossible to move biological beings beyond the speed of light.

His Statement:
The answer, in my book is: everywhere you look! 

It seems they have been here for some time. They don't seem to want us to get to know them. The scary part is they seem to interact with us in private most of the time. What would keep a intelligent species here and not communicate.


My Statement: Everywhere?...... And, Joe, IMO there are at least the possibility of FOUR distinct type of `entities' that are of an anomalous nature..... and to the point you are about to make.... Communicate with whom?

His Statement:
One of the answers may be the history of the human species. We rarely keep our contracts or promises. We have almost wipe out hundreds of species off the planet. We go to war at a drop of a hat. Our scientist have egos compared to rock stars. And people are afraid. The next time you go to You Tube or read a blog with comments. Notice the vicious attacks on anything UFO. It is relentless and violent name calling at best and or sexist and raciest at it's worst.  The only time that humans attack like this verbally and with no regard for discourse is fear. The fear that this  be true.

My Statement: I don't see quite the attacks except perhaps at Reddit.com UFO subreddit - but there are probably others.....(perhaps conspiracy sites which I rarely go to)  I don't ascribe the attacks so much as fear as simply being `played out with the antics and beliefs of UFOlogists' ----- they are a SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE folks... not looking at what may occur within anomalous phenomenologies.

His Statement:
The fear of the past becomes the investigations of the future. (Joe has a Dr. Michio Kaku video with the caption `Do You Believe - oh please') After all these years they are taking notice. 
Finally it's up to us in the UFO Community to take the higher ground. We will never reach the fear but we can reach those who can see mature behavior. As you just heard the "Times they are a changing" and the next few years should be astonishing. 
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog


My Final Statement:
Personally, I'd be astonished IF there was ANY change about the idea of aliens on Earth in the next few years... ESPECIALLY WITH THE `2011 USA DISCLOSURE' - ANY change.... That said, there is a BIT of movement about the idea of Orb Entities that is cool... IMO. To me, having a broader idea of `spacecraft' even to those who have seen them,.... like Joe and I is important. Neither of us have any idea if the crafts we saw were human based or not. I also do not place faith in the `speakers of science' such as Kaku to convince someone of something with no concrete evidence,..... yet.
Rick Phillips
UDCC
Commercial blog
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