As I mentioned in yesterdays post, IF the Israel UFO was a `hoax' - the time is waning short for the `hoax viral video maker' to step forward. Already, without more videos surfacing, it is apparent that the `shelf-life' of this event has reached or is reaching its expiration date. Perhaps more interesting is this strong feeling expressed by a comment in UDCC: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4174828569039941516&postID=3855740560023296176
2) As to the hoax possibility, I think the biggest issue is not the resultant embarrassment and damage to the credibility of "believers", but the incalculable damage which will have been done to everyone's sense of trust, which is already in danger of disappearing. A hoax would be so harmful that if this does turn out to be a corporate publicity effort, we must take some kind of action that will make publicity-hungry businesses think twice before trying such a cynical publicity stunt.
If it turns out to be a publicity stunt, we have to hurt the hoaxer. By that I mean a massive, 100% punitive boycott of the product they're pushing. I know it's premature but I'm very worried about the fallout from a hoax. If it tuns out this has been done to promote a movie, we've got to do what we can to persuade the public NOT to reward it with their attendance. We have to persuade them to "vote with their dollars", and refuse to pay to see any movie that uses such a scummy scam as an apparently real UFO. It starts with us not going, and then spreading the word that no one in the "community" should support such a movie.
However, I surmise that more videos, if only city webcams or security cams, that caught the FLASH at the minimum, exist IF this is a real event. That said, at this point - anyone who had OTHER VIDEOS of the event surely know they are marketable. Worth dollars. So, why post to the world in a free public forum.
Then again, how many videos exist of any public event at 1:00 AM `by bystanders'? (Remember, the golden number of 1 AM videos demanded by Discover.Com for such an event to be real is evidently in excess of a DOZEN) -- (Oh, and let's not forget about the need for a tripod to stop that shakiness in the video to address the concerns of About.Com).
Okay, that was a lead on to TODAY'S JERUSALEM UFO/ORB VIDEO -- I'm calling this one the `impossible flash' which one of my readers sent to me. The link, again, on YouTube, is the effort of someone to see if any Israel Webcams might have caught the Saturday Morning Event.
And, amazingly, as you will see in the video - a Flash - supposedly in the same location as the UFO (via google earth) - that according to the date of the video is almost exactly 24 hours in advance of the `event'. (The person submitting the video thought it was the event but the date is wrong or different on the video camera --- that said, I have seen claims that when videotaping paranormal it can affect such things as displays.)
So, put this somewhere in the matrix web of your mind that responds to the words `Jerusalem UFO': All of less than 700 Views when posted before 10:28 AM.
Here's the verbage with the video post:
I went to this website http://www.02ws.com/station.php?secti... and typed in the date as follows 28-01-2011. Also on this website you can get the location of the camera, the manager of the states that camera looks north, so using google earth I typed in the location of the web cam and looking north The Dome of the Rock is within the range of the cam, although it is distant and hidden by the old wall of the city and The King David Hotel. At 00:57:59, or 12:57:59 a.m. (on the webcam time) you see to the right of the screen over where the DOR is a bright light that disappears.I hope this shows what I mean accurately, all credit to the original filmers of this event. Never tried to make my own video so here it is for what it's worth. The only edit I did was shortening the webcam video. You can do all this yourself and find what I found. Peace.
How many little links of meaning exist for any given event?
My bet, on this particular video is that - wrong day, big co-incidence - but, who knows in this Fortean World.
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I think you're right about time running out for any hoaxer to come forward. Pretty soon, the video will be "old news" in the viral community. But you bet your life I'll be right there with you boycotting any Hollywood movie that might be linked to this--if they have the nerve to market their stuff in this way, then they have sunk pretty low.
ReplyDeleteC.J. -- thanks for your comments as always - just flashed by your blog and am going to check it out.
ReplyDeleteRick
If you look at the Jan 28 web cam and watch it all the way thorugh, you will see a huge white flash happen way after said event: http://www.02ws.com/station.php?section=pic_movie_archive.php&lang=0
ReplyDeleteAnyways, my question is this...what time are you we really looking at? 1 am what time, our time - Jerusalem time? At waht time really did the event take place and how accurate is the web cam time?
Seems to be since the "hoaxer" or "marketer" isn't coming forward, we'll have to investigate this ourselves...
Well, I'm confused about WHEN this happened. Was it 1 am Eastern time the videos were posted, or 1 am local time?
ReplyDeleteAnd if the videos were UPLOADED 1 am, the sightings would have happened sooner.
Also keep in mind this webcam captures an image every 10 minutes.
More on the topic here:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread658877/pg1
I visited the so-called israeli guy who is promoting these so-called UFO vids and noticed that he joined Youtube in 2007 --FOUR years back, and yet all he has on his channel is those few vids of the claimed 'UFO' and less friends. So what the freak has he been doing at Youtube all this time....?
ReplyDeleteThe Hoaxkiller 1 also claims to have exposed the hoax. One video seems to show these lines around the video--the one supposedly where one person's videoing the other--the first vid. And Hoaxkiller 1 is showing how the shakey movement of the vid was done.
UFO Sightings - Thanks for checking into UDCC and thanks for the link, I wish it would work for me. I wouldn't be surprised if it is overloaded. The time was supposedly 1/29/11 in the 1AM hour THEIR time, Jerusalem. The first videos posted had no problem as far timing sequence.
ReplyDeleteMUZ - the same type of `suspicion' could be brought forth if they joined that day IMO. Indeed, a joining only a FEW days before would in my mind be the most suspicious. As, I've said, I will view, for now, this event as a totality. thanks for making my mind think.
Rick
I'm not saying it's not a hoax, but his YouTube join date is no indication it is...
ReplyDeleteI think just from joining the site to comment and stuff you create an account. Most accounts I don't think have videos.
Also, didn't mean to post twice before. : ) thought the first one got lost
Oh and also - has anyone checked the night of the sighting, to see if the orb is there? I can't find the search by date option on that original site - http://www.02ws.com/station.php- even though I swear it was there before!
ReplyDelete"Testing reality by proxy is not an option for us. It never was. Our culture has a fantasy about an arm's length transaction with reality."
ReplyDelete~Bruce Duensing
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This is the single most profound observation Bruce has ever shared (obviously, at least, as far as I've seen), and anyone who has read Material Intangibility knows what a treasure of profundity exists there.
No YouTube video or photograph or anecdote is going to change anyone's mind about anything, because Experience - however laughable the interpretations - is the only language that matters.
I've learned The Hard Way: Experience is not transferable. To believe otherwise is an excruciating exercise in heartache and social sanction.
What people want is to have their biases confirmed. It does not matter how many initials they have after their names, how many books they've written, how well or often they represent themselves "experts", or are represented by others as such. Academics. Lay persons. Clergy. Journalists. Experiencers. Friends. Family. Acquaintances. Adversaries. Skeptics. "Believers." Artists or bureaucrats. Lovable or loathsome. You or me.
The number of people who claim to Want to Know versus those who are willing to part with their own baggage to get on the effing plane is staggeringly, vanishingly, depressingly tiny.
The chasm between assumptions and knowledge is vast and terrifying. Anything worth learning requires abandonment of assumption-masquerading-as-fact. The ship only holds so much cargo.
Seeking is free. Finding is for "premium subscribers only." Those premiums, and their soul-crushing taxes, are far too great for those who prefer the warm fuzzies of Consensus to the cold, unflinching Truth(s) humanity is all too happy to deny.
If I had to do all over again, I wouldn't share sh*t, but since the genie is out of the bottle, and I now know what to expect, I persist - albeit with completely different set of expectations. Even so, I've learned how to hold back, as people will suck out whatever time and energy they can like marrow from a femur, with zero awareness of their own selfishness, blindness and cruelty.
The only truth embargo is what we accept or reject based on our own fears. Anyone desiring knowledge about cosmological intelligence in or beyond Earth's biosphere is perfectly free to go outside and work diligently to find it. Those who purport to do so and come up empty-handed are looking for meat & mashed potatoes on a Silver Platter of Truth.
Arvin,
ReplyDeleteMay I make the assumption that you do not know about Bruce's and my connection? http://thecinfluenceblog.blogspot.com ----
You also in the comment say some profound things too - such as experience is not transferable.
Also: `The number of people who claim to Want to Know versus those who are willing to part with their own baggage to get on the effing plane is staggeringly, vanishingly, depressingly tiny.'
In addition to others - Alvin, I went to your blog - why did you never post your experiences?
thanks for your comment,
Rick
Rick, thank you for the thoughtful response. It is rare I get one.
ReplyDeleteI was one of the first readers at The C Influence and have enjoyed it throughout, in fits and starts, as it were.
You ask why I haven't blogged about my experiences.
The short answer is that, when I finally decided to give it a go, I ended up with a double lumbar fusion shortly thereafter.
The long answer is more than the 4,096 characters allowed in the comment box.
Admittedly, I struggle with how best to disseminate what I've learned, and continue to learn (my experiences are ongoing, much to my surprise) and whether it's worth doing so, as I am really, really, really exhausted from taking beat downs from whole tribes of ignoramuses. Against this whole backdrop of enigmatic experiences, Life Goes On, and it's hard to balance with All Things Mundane.
I'm easy to contact for Those Who Dare, though I feel compelled to offer a caveat: Serial book writers and conference twerps looking for an easy exploit are certain to be sorely disappointed.
Found this Facebook page devoted in part to the Jerusalem UFO. Try and checkout all the tlinks to do with it. I listed to this guy Michael Cohen who claims to have spoken to the actual guy who uploaded it, and he also claims that the ones claiming hoax are themselves not gettin their debunking right though admits the video of the UFo and static background is fake
ReplyDeleteI am agnostic on this ;)
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